Cassetten-Schätze, Teil 7
(25.01.2023, 09:08)Old-Papa schrieb: mich stören die ulkigen Schriftzeichen am unteren Kassettenrand.

Warum? Huh
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(25.01.2023, 12:14)timo schrieb: Warum? Huh

Bin vielleicht übervorsichtig.... Sieht zumindest nicht nach lateinischen Buchstaben oder Arabischen Ziffern aus. Big Grin 

Egal, für knapp 400 Öre mess ich lieber "zufuß"

Old-Papa
Man prüfe,
wenn man sich berät,
stets vor dem Preis,
die Qualität.


(aus Radio-Schnorr von 1934)
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Ich denke einmal diese komischen Schriftzeichen, waren die Einladung an die japanischen Hersteller, sich der DIN-Norm anzuschließen.
Viele Grüße,

Michael
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2245:
Thanks for the response.
I think the shape of the tape is not as important as the color and overall look, the Maxell and That's Metal are very different tapes.
With that Basf logic and the heavy Suono shell, I didn't take it for granted.
That's Suono is a very premium product in the Supermetals category. That's why I would never have thought that OEM brands would use a heavy case and not just "format Suono" But Basf probably required it, so they could have directly used Suono tape as well, but I guess that's too much to ask Big Grin
But the packaging states Ultra Heavy Construction. But this inscription is also on the CR Studio version. I'd be interested in the pricing policy at the time of the current sale compared to That's audiotapes.

I agree, the tapes have changed over the years, XLII Black Magnetite is black, XLII-S is significantly lighter, XLII does not show through, XLII-S shows through subtly. Maxell had a bit of a problem getting the information correct in the transition period in the first half of the 90's when they were switching from brown belts to black, but not all of them. For example, I have UDI-CD versions of the 1994 pack where there is black opaque tape everywhere, except for one piece, with an older manufacture date but identical packaging and design.
It's the same with other Maxell models.
As I described the CR Studio and Maxell XLII-S are indeed almost identical in appearance, the only time I've ruled this out is with the metallics.

So, can I correct the tape and composition descriptions on my page for the Focus and Studio cartridges in turn? With the Live series, I never doubted that Basf wouldn't be there.
I'm still wondering what they put in Focus Metal then, but probably That's probably it.

For the Basf Chrome, Chrome Plus and FeCo cassettes I did a comparison with photos, because of the High Performace picture series, and it happened that in one series of three there were FeCo tapes and in some Chrome Plus tapes, I compared the colour, translucency and sound differences. So I'll believe anything.

I never noticed the yellow deposits n Suono, you refer to my pictures, I considered it as classic aging of paper and materials, because sometimes after unwrapping an audio cassette I really can't stop wondering what all I find there, sometimes white cotton wool, white hairs that are mostly on the papers, or a thick hairy coating just on the magnetic shielding pad in the body of the audio cassette, or dark ghost like impressions on very old cassettes like here:
https://ez647.sk/cc/basf_profii.html

That's why I would never have thought it was yellow from the audiotape body material, or that it would somehow irreversibly ruin the tape, as I mentioned That's Suono I recorded and it was weird, but it worked.
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Zitat:XLII Black Magnetite is black, XLII-S is significantly lighter, XLII does not show through, XLII-S shows through subtly.
First XLII Black Magnetite is more brown, it's the second version of XLII BM that is almost black and almost opaque.

None of these Maxells are really opaque they all shine through to some degree!
The only tapes I found that are 100% opaque are CrO2 tapes.

Zitat:That's why I would never have thought that OEM brands would use a heavy case and not just "format Suono" But Basf probably required it...
...I'd be interested in the pricing policy at the time of the current sale compared to That's audiotapes.
That's (Taiyo Yuden) went out of tape buisiness around 1993 and GM in Singapour bought the leftovers, so there was no That's at late 1994 when the BASF Studio tapes arrived.
So they obviously bought the shell from GenMag for less money than That's would have made them pay.  But I doubt That's would have sold them to BASF when the Souno was still in production.
Zitat:I considered it as classic aging of paper and materials
I thoght it's just glue someone spilled... but when I found the same yellow stuff inside of the cassette it became clear that spots on the j-card were also from the shell.
And then I looked at your site to see if it happens to That's Souno too... and yes a very light spot, but the same color.

Zitat:So, can I correct the tape and composition descriptions on my page for the Focus and Studio cartridges in turn?
I would write "most probaly maxell XLII / XLII-S, because it's not 100% sure. The measurement does not confirm and the yellow stuuf ruined the tape is most probably true but also not 100%. The STEREO  review seems to confirm. ANd also BASF also used the BM tape in the TPII, so Maxell is very likely.
But there is also the Stereoplay review that had all these tapes and they came out slightly different in that test.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VRFfejx...EErZP/view
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It might contribute to some of the confusion here that not all of the CR II Studio cassettes necessarily use the same kind of tape. I have found two clearly different metal tapes in two examples of MP IV Studio, which I have both had from when they were new. One of the tapes looks more Maxell-ish, the other one That's-ish. Similar changes of the contents may have happened with more or less all of the 353 series models with Genmag shells.

"...or less" because there are, to make everything even more complex, those FE I Focus with tape which looks a lot like BASF Ferro Maxima to me.

Regards
Martin
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