(19.07.2025, 10:40)Tonschreiber schrieb: [ -> ]Könnte ein MMK 6 sein. Muss das Band da so eingelegt werden?
V.G.
Jo
Wohl nicht, denn bei genauem Ansehen sieht man die Markierung für den Bandverlauf.
Auf der Maihak muss das Band so wie im Film eingelegt werden, wenn es mit der Schicht nach innen auf der Spule liegt, denn die MMK6 hat deutsche Schichtlage!
Ok, die deutsche Schichtlage habe ich nicht bedacht. Ich hatte erstmal pics mit „normal“ eingelegten Bändern gefunden.
Du hattest ja schon 2018 in einem thread darauf hingewiesen.
Wie ist das denn mit dem Bremsmoment der Abwickelspule? Bei moderneren Geräten geht das ja nicht so einfach mit dem „falschen“ Abwickeln.
Hier ein pic aus dem alten thread
.
![[Bild: Z]](data:image/jpeg;base64,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)
Hallo!
ARD alpha retro - höhere Töchter 1962 (vor einigen Tagen)
[
attachment=83521]
Studer/Revox scheint nicht der Hersteller zu sein...
Gruß
Wolfgang
Am Anfang des Videos (bzw. Filmausschnitts aus HELP) von „The Night Before“ von den Fab Four ist für ein paar Sekunden die amtliche Nagra III zu sehen:
[
attachment=83596]
Gruß Holgi
Hallo!
Nitro (gestern Abend) - Fireball (007)
[
attachment=83879]
UHER 4000-S Report
Gruß
Wolfgang
Sehe bei 5:40 und 5:53 eine handliche Maschine. Leider ist der Markenname oder was die runde Plakette auch immer sein könnte nicht sicher zu entziffern. Vier Buchstaben jedenfalls, erinnert mich an den SABA Schriftzug.
V.G
Jo
Ist auch SABA. Hab da aber keine Ahnung, das Modell hab ich noch nie gesehen. Möglicherweise kein Heimgerät.
Gruß Holger
Vor ein paar Tagen, eine Nagra bei "Mord ist ihr Hobby" (Folge irgendwas mit Wahlkampf auf Hawaii, oder halt, es war diese Folge ""To Kill a Legend") auf Sat1 Gold. Mit Foto kann ich leider nicht dienen.
Vielleicht war's schon mal da: gestern im Sauerkrautkoma.
Evtl. ein Grundig?
Gruß
Hörbie
[
attachment=84769]
(28.09.2025, 16:16)djhoerbie schrieb: [ -> ]Vielleicht war's schon mal da: gestern im Sauerkrautkoma.
Evtl. ein Grundig?
Gruß
Hörbie
Ich würde sagen, vom Grundsätzlichen her ein Telefunken aus der M200er Serie. Dieses Modell ist mir allerdings unbekannt. Vielleicht eine Behörden Spezialversion.
Gruß Holger